Minutes:
The Board considered a report of the Strategic Director, Communities, which provided Members with an opportunity to scrutinise the current car parking arrangements in place both at the Halton and Warrington Hospital sites and associated parking penalty charges. Ms Mel Pickup, the Chief Executive of Warrington & Halton Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust (WHHFT) and Mr S McGuire attended the meeting to discuss the current arrangements.
The Board was advised that in 2014, WHHFT had
entered into an agreement with Highview Parking
Limited to undertake the control and enforcement of the car parks at Warrington
and Halton Hospitals. As part of the car
parking arrangements, any driver that currently overstayed in the car parks
have been issued with a £75 penalty charge, reduced to £40 if paid within 14
days.
It was reported that since the introduction of
these new arrangements, a number of issues/concerns have been raised by
patients and their families with Elected Members, and in particular Councillor
Thompson in his capacity as Ward Councillor.
A copy of the letter Councillor Thompson had sent to the Chief Executive
of WHHFT on 20 June 2015 outlining the areas of concern and requesting that the
Trust urgently review the parking arrangements was set out in Appendix 1 to the
report. Councillor Thompson, had also sent additional
correspondence outlining information from patients and visitors in relation to
their experiences of the car parking arrangements, along with two Freedom of
Information requests in respect of the management and control of the Hospital
car parks.
The following questions had been submitted to
the Trust prior to the meeting:-
·
The Tender Process – It was reported that a large
number of charges had been issued due to motorists keying in registration
numbers incorrectly. Parking systems
existed to minimise these problems. A
Freedom of Information (FOI) request on Bristol Eye Hospital revealed that no
parking charges whatsoever had been issued in a three month period at their car
park.
Question
- Did any of the tender responses for the contract propose this or a similar
type of technology? If so, why was it
not chosen?
Question
- Is it possible to switch over to this type of technology now? If not, why not?
·
Government guidelines explicitly warned against
awarding contracts let on any basis that incentives
additional charges.
Question
- There are 18 NHS patient, visitor and staff car parking principles. Has the Trust audited against these and if so
what are the results?
Question
- Did the Trust consult with other hospitals who had
previously awarded contracts on the basis of incentive charges, especially ones
which have had to sack the parking contractor because of the huge number of
complaints and problems (e.g. ParkingEye at
Northumbria NHS and Yeovil)? If not, why
not?
Question
- If the Government bans such models completely in NHS car parks, how long are
the Trust stuck with the contract?
Question
- Is the Trust aware of the Somerfield vs ParkingEye
case? Has the Trust assessed the cost of early termination of the
contract? According to FOI it would be
the annual rate of £1.27mm for the length of the contract. Contract law does not provide relief for a
‘bad bargain’ or incompetent negation in company to company contracts.
·
Patient Confidentiality – It was reported that
personal data was confidential and if a patient parked on hospital property and
were timed and photographed by the Trust’s agent, this was not personally
identifiable information which fell under their duty of care and required
explicit permission for its release.
Question
- Was this duty of care taken into consideration?
Question
- Was the Trust’s Caldicott Guidance consulted on
this and what were the comments and when were they made?
Question
- Since the system involved people (registered keepers) who may not have been
present at the parking event, what procedures have been put in place to protect
personal information (date and time of patient visit) to a third party? Was this information sent to a company such
as a car lease organisation such as Mobility. This appears to be another breach of the ICO
Regulations.
Question
- Was the Trust’s Caldicott Guardian consulted on
this? What were the comments and when
were they made?
Question
- Has the Trust consulted the Information Commissioners Office about the breach
of patient confidentiality and the breach of other’s confidentiality i.e. those
on the highway?
·
Equality Act – An article from the Trusts website
was highlighted.
Question
- What provision has been made within the current system for the disabled (not
just Blue Badge (BB) holders). Was this covered either in the tender or
current operational procedures?
Question
- How many BB holders / disabled people have been charged for overnight staying
when they ought to have been allowed more time?
Question
- Where on the signage at the disabled bays does it tell disabled people they
are legally allowed extra parking time for their money?
Question
- Where on the signage does it tell people what to do, to get one cancelled by
the NHS Trust (not appeals)?
Question
- How is the management of disabled bays handled as an ANPR system cannot do
this?
Question
- If a future disability discrimination case is raised, who will pay for
this? Will it be the Trust or the
contractor?
Question
- What impact assessment or review by their disability awareness team did the
NHS Trust carry out under the Equality Act before allowing the scheme?
Answer
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Question
- If the third party sues patients and even staff, what will the NHS Trust do
about it? There are numerous examples of
this happening throughout the country.
·
The British Parking Association and Signage at the
Trust – In respect of the leaflet on WHHFT’s website, giving advice and information
on car parking on their sites; it was reported that the Trust says “we believe
the signage on our sites is fully compliant and has been authorised by British
Parking Association (BPA) Standards”. It
was reported that BPA was not a regulator only a Trade Association. However, it was highlighted that they do have
an audit team that checked signs for clarity of terms and visibility within a
site.
Question - When did the audit take place and
where are the results of the audit?
Question - Why was the failure to erect signs
in the car park, previously detailed by Councillor Thompson not addressed?
Question - What timescale has the BPA put on
the rectification of failures picked up by this audit?
·
Refunds
Question
- What are the Trusts plans to rectify the situation, apart from putting the
onus on the wronged to prove it to be an organisation that has been
incentivised to refuse/deny such failures?
Question
- How many tickets have been issued to drivers using the areas where no signs
were present?
Question
- How many tickets have been issued to drivers who did not go on hospital land
at all?
Question
- What plans, if any, do the Trust have to refund the unlawfully enforced fines
on the public highway?
Question
- As the Trust has everyone’s addresses either via the DVLA link or through any
payment made, does the Trust intend to contact patients, visitors and staff who
may have been caught by this failure?
Question - Who
will bear the cost?
Mr McGuire reported that a full and detailed
response on the questions raised above would be provided to Members of the
Board in writing. The Board agreed to
this course of action.
The Board was advised that the management of
car parking across the sites had been problematic over the last few years, with
many people not paying the parking charges and as a result this had been
contracted out through a procurement process.
It was reported that a number of different contractors had applied and
they had been evaluated against a set of criteria and a contractor, Highview Parking Limited had been chosen and the system had
been implemented. However, it was
reported that subsequent to the implementation discussions had taken place with
contractors in respect of signage and communication and this was in the process
of being rectified.
The Board raised the following comments /
questions at the meeting:-
·
The Board noted that British Parking Association
(BPA) and it’s Members had
access to DVLA data in order to identify and issue parking notices when
necessary. Appeals against such charges
would be made to POPLA (Parking On Private Land
Appeals). It was also noted that POPLA’s annual report had been published this
week outlining the performance of all parking companies and it was noted that
if POPLA decided a penalty notice was unfair no further course of action was
available;
·
Concern was raised at the stress and strain that had
been put on patients visiting the hospital, particularly under emergency
situations and who had received penalty notices for £75 for over parking for a
few minutes; for inputting an incorrect registration number and for not
purchasing a ticket due to a lack of understanding of the new system. The Board also raised concern at the
inadequate, contradicting and in some instances a lack of appropriate signage
located at the sites and highlighted the confusion this had caused to patients
attending the hospital. In response, it
was reported that a survey had been undertaken on the sites and although the
report findings were not available as yet, it had verbally been reported that
they were all BPA compliant and some only required a minor adjustment. However, it was reported that there was a
different between compliance and helpfulness and as a result of feedback from
patients the Trust, over the last few weeks, have increased and changed some of
the signage to make them clearer and more informative. The Trust acknowledged and apologised for the
signage, although compliant, had not been more helpful and the ‘old signs and
machines’ had not been taken down in a timely fashion;
·
It was reported that when the Trust had made the
decision to implement the new system they had ensured there was a fair and
equitable appeals process and as a result 25% of appeals had succeeded and
charges had been cancelled. The Trust,
it was reported, had recognised the confusion regarding registration numbers
and that a visit to the hospital could be an emotional time and as far as
possible, they had given people the benefit of the doubt and cancelled the
charge;
·
It was noted that Halton was a deprived area and
clarity was sought on why the penalty charges were so high at £75 in comparison
to other NHS Trust charges. It was
highlighted that guidelines state that the level of charge should be fair to
the area and £75 was excessive. In
addition, it was reported that the machines were difficult to use and clarity
was sought on whether they could be replaced with an easier model. In response, it was reported that the new
system had been put in place as a consequence of people not paying their
parking charges and that the machines were widely used and industry
standard. Where people had inputted
incorrect registration numbers, they would be given the benefit of the doubt
and the penalty notice would be cancelled.
It was highlighted that in hindsight it would have been interesting to
have undertaken a full costing of a barrier system, but this would have been
more expensive and the ANPR system was half the price and a financial balance
between funding for patient care vs ‘other activities’. It was also reported that parking revenue was
reinvested into patient care;
·
It was highlighted that parking systems should be as
simple as possible for people to understand and they should not cause distress
in what was already a stressful situation.
In addition, if the system was simple it would avoid the necessity to
appeal against the penalty notice and the fact that 25% of the appeals had been
successful proved that the system was not fit for purpose. In response, it was reported that the system
had been implemented in September 2014 and appeared to be working
satisfactorily. However, the issue had
escalated when the company began to issue penalty notices as a period of time
had elapsed. However, it was reported
that the Trust were trying to respond positively to all feedback; some areas of
concern were being investigated which took time and improvements would continue
to be made;
·
It was noted that BPA were not a regulatory body,
but a body who represented it’s members one of which
was Highview Parking Limited. It was also noted that a complaint had been
made to BPA in respect of Hillview Parking Limited
not complying with numerous parts of BPA’s code;
·
It was noted that the highest error rate across the
North West was 6% and that 25 % was unacceptable; that research showed that
older people tended to get more parking tickets than younger people and that
people should not be receiving penalty notices for incorrect registration
numbers as the guidance stated that they should be manually checked. The Board also noted and expressed concern
that in a period of 89 days, March 2015-April 2015, 4200 penalty notices had
been issued; Elected Members, MP’s; Citizens advice and various newspapers had
been inundated with complaints about the penalty charges. Furthermore, it was highlighted that other
NHS Trusts such as Clatterbridge and Bristol
successfully operated ANPR systems and clarity was sought on why so many
penalty notices had been issued in Halton;
·
Photographs of the sites were available at the
meeting and in light of the scale of the issue; conflicting terms and
conditions; non signage and the number of successful appeals,
clarity was sought on whether people who had received a penalty notice would be
refunded. In response, it was reported
that the Trust recognised the genuine stress and anxiety that the new system
had caused and that they were working through the system to try to alleviate
some of the issues. In addition, it was
reported that BPA gave companies the privilege of access to DVLA data and if
any member was in breach of their code they would take appropriate action. Furthermore, in respect of the refund, it was
reported that it was not clear that there had been a breach of signage or the
contract and the Trust could not, at this time, lawfully spend tax payers money
on refunds without an identified breach;
·
Clarity was sought on why the machines did not have
the facility to give change and it was suggested that this was an additional
stress to patients visiting the hospital as they incurred additional
costs. In response, it was reported that
this would be looked into. However, it
was reported that previous machines did not have the facility and subject to
financial implications, consideration would be given to upgrading the machines
to recognise registration numbers and bank card facilities;
·
Concern was raised that it could take half an hour
or more to find a parking space at the site and charges commenced on entry to
the site. It was suggested that system
should be that you find a parking space and then parking charges commenced. In
response, it was reported that there was a grace period of 30 minutes for
dropping patients off at the hospital, which did not incur a charge, which
meant that if you paid £3 for 5 hours parking, effectively you would receive 5
½ hours. It was highlighted that a
penalty notice could be issued to a patient who had experienced long delays to
see a consultant and had been there for over 5 ½ hours. This, it was reported
would be additional stress and upset for the patient hospital and the penalty
notice would not be appropriate. The congestion at the car park was discussed
and it was reported that there may be long term plans to address the
congestion, but it was not an option at the current time due to the financial
cost. In respect of receiving a penalty
notice due to hospital delays, it was reported that this would be viewed
favourable at the appeal. In addition,
it was reported that evidence suggested that such delays were rare and as you
paid on exit this would not be an issue;
·
It was reported that 30 minutes was not a grace
period and that Halton Trading Standards had confirmed that the grace period
was 15 minutes. An individual’s penalty
notice was highlighted showing that they had only been 11 minutes over and had
received numerous notices for payment, one stating that legal action was
pending with a £115 fine. The wording of
the letters was also inappropriate and the timescales for dealing with the appeals
were conflicting and the process was also taking too long. Clarity was sought on whether the Trust had
authorised the contractor to pursue debt recovery and to take individuals to
court. In response, it was reported that
these matters were not the responsibility of the Trust, it was the contractors
decision how they pursued penalty notices and it could be assumed that they
would pursue penalty charges through the court process. In addition, it was reported that the procurement
process for the contractor had been won on robust criteria and numerous parties
had been consulted on the new car parking system that had been subsequently
implemented;
·
It was confirmed at the meeting that records showed
that the camera was on an adopted highway and required planning permission and
an application had been invited and that some signage required an application
and this had also been invited. It was
also confirmed that the land which the camera was situation and
which was collecting data had Highway status and this took precedence over land
ownership.
·
It was suggested that consideration should be given to
car parking charges when allocating patient appointments. If a patient had more than one appointment
during the day, it resulted in them having to wait on site for a considerable
time to avoid paying two separate 5 hour car parking charges. If the appointments took account of the car parking
charges i.e. shorter timescales, it would free up parking spaces and avoid the
additional costs. In response, it was
reported that an individual could aggregate two periods of time into one with
the same ticket as it would only take account of the actual parking time on the
site;
·
It was suggested that consideration should be given
to enabling patients to transfer tickets to both sites as currently an
individual could have an appointment at Halton and be referred to Warrington which
resulted in two car parking charges. It
was reported that previously tickets were transferrable between the two sites. In response, it was reported that his matter
would be looked into as there was a process to have the ticket cancelled at the
hospital. However, an undertaking was
given to making sure the process was clear;
·
The Healthwatch
representative reported that he was a frequent visitor to both sites and due to
the difficulties with car parking and penalty charges,
he was now using public transport. In
response, it was reported that the Trust acknowledged that the site was not
suitable for purpose but due to the current financial restraints there were no
alternative options available.
The Chairman thanked Ms Pickup and Mr McGuire
for their attendance and it was agreed that they would provide a written
response to the questions outlined above that had been sent prior to the meeting;
that Members comments above be given consideration and that they would attend
the Health PPB meeting scheduled on 3 November 2015 to update the Board on the
car parking situation at the hospital sites.
.
RESOLVED: That
(1)
the question and responses be noted;
(2)
Ms Mel Pickup and Mr S McGuire be thanked for their
attendance; and
(3)
an update report on the car parking arrangements
at Warrington and Halton Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust be presented to the meeting
of the Board on 3 November 2015.
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